Abraham Depp/Hopewell Elementary Schools to open in the fall of 2020

K-8 Redistricting Fall 2019

Dear Parents,

Below we have attempted to collate the types of questions we received at public meetings the first full week of October, and via email at info@dublinschools.net. We will continue posting answers to different questions as they come into our inbox. 


The District will now spend several weeks reviewing the community feedback and determining what adjustments may be made to the proposed maps. The steering committee will be meeting two additional times to review possible adjustments to the proposed maps before making a recommendation to the Superintendent. This process will be concluded prior to winter break. 


Thank you.


Dublin City Schools



Bristol Commons

The neighbors here passionately want to know how they can make this difference.  Is there any chance?

 

All attendance boundary changes are proposals only at this point. This area will be under review during the coming weeks.


Can you tell me by grade the number of kids at Bailey? Also, there is no way the kindergarten class will be 55 kids less.  Even if it were, how will you handle having so many other kids in the other grades? How many preschool classrooms are at Bailey? How many K-5 kids are at Bailey (no preschool) right now?

 

There are approximately 545 students at Bailey in 2019-20.

Bailey has plenty of capacity to accept Bristol Commons next year as a large 5th grade class will be leaving, and 105 preschool students and about 44 intradistrict open enrollment and involuntarily transferred students are not in the 2020-21 enrollment projections for Bailey.

 

Why is our neighborhood the only one that is leaving Wyandot when we are the closest? Can you please answer a question for me?  The website says the goal was to keep kids close to their schools. Bristol Commons borders Wyandot. We walk under Brand Rd. through the beautiful tunnel every day.  We are so much closer than almost any other neighborhood. Why are you making us ride a bus when we can walk to school in 5 minutes? I do not see any logic in this. You have kids in Westbury who are several miles away and you are sending them to Wyandot. How does that make sense?

 

One of the most important criteria identified by the steering committee and community was to move the least number of students possible. 

 

Why are we being told we have to move BOTH elementary and middle school?

In an effort to keep all of Bailey together, all of Bailey would attend Grizzell under the proposed maps.

 

Is the District now using Brand Road as a hard dividing line similar to the river?

 

No.

 

Why was the goal of filling Bailey with students prioritized for keeping neighborhoods in close proximity to their school?

 

The goal was not to fill Bailey but to balance ALL the schools’ enrollment.  Without moving more students from Wyandot/Deer Run to Bailey then Wyandot/Deer Run would be at capacity.  

 

What about older siblings who attend Karrer already & will be in 8th grade when a younger sibling goes into 6th? Can the 6th grader attend the same school or be forced to change?

 

We have not made a decision regarding whether 5th and 8th graders will be given the opportunity to stay in their current schools instead of moving to a new middle school.  If an 8th grader would be allowed to stay in his/her current school, it is unlikely that a younger sibling would also be allowed to stay or that transportation would be provided.

 

Will there be another move once the high school redistrict happens? 

 

There is no way to know the answer to this at this time.

 

What other options were explored to filling Bailey without having to pull students from other elementary schools?

 

The goal was not to fill Bailey but to balance ALL the schools’ enrollment.  Without moving more students from Wyandot/Deer Run to Bailey then Wyandot/Deer Run would be at capacity.  


Now they will know almost no one as they go to Coffman.  How does this make sense? I’m sorry, can you clarify which is right?  Do the kids going to Bailey next year now already all go to Coffman, too? 

 

After redistricting all students from Bailey will go to Grizzell. The split from Grizzell to Coffman and Jerome is approximately 50/50.

 

How many K-5 kids will be at Bailey next year if the map is approved?

 

Approximately 605.

 

While both Bailey and Grizzell are great schools, I would like to understand why these three significant considerations were disregarded when determining the future of our children? Why was our neighborhood selected to “lose” on every point? Would you consider putting us back to Wyandot AND Karrer? So can you please consider putting our neighborhood (Bristol Commons) back to Wyandot Elementary and Karrer Middle School if possible? Would someone please help us?  How are these kids going to function knowing that like every 2 years they have to change schools and make new friends? No adult would want to have to uproot and start over every couple of years.  How can you expect these kids to? This is not a rhetorical question. Would someone please answer me as to how this is ok? 

 

This area will be under review during the coming weeks.

 

 

Busing


What is the maximum change in distance travelled by children comparing old to new middle school?  What is the maximum distance a child would have to travel for middle school? What is the maximum distance a middle school child should have to travel on a bus? What is the high school redistricting timeline?


The timing of bus routes is a complex process that will take place once attendance boundary maps are finalized through the redistricting process. There are some assumptions being made regarding travel times from Post Preserve, Westbury and other neighborhoods in the area proposed to middle school five that have not been verified by the Transportation Department.



Class sizes

Are you going to have smaller class sizes and aids in the classrooms at certain southern elementary and middle schools? Will class size remain the same? Did you consider classroom sizes? 


The current elementary classroom enrollment “caps” are 26-1 for K/1st, 28-1 for 2nd/3rd, 30-1 for 4th/5th. The redistricting process will not increase or decrease overall class sizes.  Just as the students are being spread among all 14 elementary buildings, existing staff will also be spread among all of our buildings.  Class sizes in a specific building and grade level vary from year to year. This is due to enrollment growth as well as families who leave the district.  Each grade level at each building is carefully reviewed each year to ensure appropriate staffing levels.  



Data

What is the data behind the new maps? Will the data be shared? What data quantitative or otherwise was used to determine the map proposal? 

The map proposals were drawn to distribute students in the district evenly and to allow for future growth. The boundaries were drawn to bring every building under capacity. Data can be found in the powerpoint presentation posted at the right of this page. Our data is constantly changing as students move in and out of the District on a daily basis. Any data set, or report, is a snapshot of a moment in time. 


Why were the maps drawn the way they were?


Maps were drawn to fit the criteria of the steering committee and community to the best that we could.  Keeping in mind proximity, transportation, and the best use of space.


Can you explain the breakdown of percentage of students moving? How many elementary students, how many middle school, and how many move for both elementary and middle?


Elementary K-4 26%

Middle 6-7 38%

Total 29%



Demographics

Please note: Our demographic data is constantly changing as students move in and out of the District on a daily basis. Any data set, or report, is a snapshot of a moment in time. 


Why were demographics not considered?


Ensuring economic or socioeconomic balance was not one of the priorities established by the redistricting committee. This is a public school district and we educate all students regardless of their demographic make-up. 


I would like to see what the pre and post demographics look like. What are the % on free and reduced lunch? What % are not English speaking?


Existing demographic information is located on our monthly enrollment report. We have run a comparable report for the proposed maps based on September data. Both documents can be found here.


How are you going to support these kids and ALL the challenges that a LOWER income school will have? What resources are you going to provide to Thomas and Sells as the rate of ESL, ELL and free lunch students is increasing substantially with the proposed? What support will you provide to the elementary and middle schools have a HUGE percentage of ESL and ELL students? What kind of resources will the district provide to schools that will now have a higher percentage of English Learners so as not to have those students struggle and/or impact other students? 


Dublin City Schools educates students of all income levels and English language speaking abilities. Support staff and programming are allocated on an as needed basis. 


Is there a better way to diversify the schools than this current proposal? Why was tracking ELL and low income students not a goal for the steering committee? You said tracking ESL, ELL and low income students was not a goal? Why not? Why wouldn’t the board and steering committee consider the number of economic disadvantaged and ELL students being assigned to any school?


We know who our English Language Learners (ELL) are so that we may fill their educational needs. We do not “track” them in an effort to group them or spread them out. We educate ELL students regardless of where they attend school in our District. 


Why are only Sells and Thomas crossing the river? Why not cross the river further north as well to ensure economic diversity?


Sells and Thomas attendance boundaries currently encompass both sides of the river. The proposed maps do not represent a change in that regard.  


What thought was put into the new boundaries and socio-economic demographics or statistics and their impact on schools? What district values determined the neighborhood school concept as it is a cause for inherent segregation with our district? By basing attendance lines/zones on keeping neighborhoods together isn’t that in turn leading to inherent segregation with our district? Please explain your logic for segregating the low income and ESL population? What efforts will be made to calculate projected demographics of each school of the new boundary lines to ensure there isn’t segregation among house household incomes and/or ethnicities? How are you making efforts to make sure there is not any segregation amongst the Dublin schools? Are you projecting % of low income households or ESL? Why does Thomas and Sells look so segregated? Why have you segregated certain neighborhoods of lower income and high ethnic diversity? Why is your goal not to blend the Dublin communities and create a first class education for all our students?


Dublin City Schools educates students of all income levels and English language speaking abilities, wherever they may live in our District. Support staff and programming are allocated on an as needed basis. Currently, we have demographic differences throughout the district because the District was structured on the neighborhood school concept. Maintaining neighborhood schools was the #1 criteria identified by the community and the redistricting steering committee. 


The District has not “segregated” any student population via the proposed new boundary maps and we do not currently “segregate” student populations based on demographics. We simply educate all students regardless of where they live, their family’s income level, or whether they speak English as a first language.


What is the plan to decrease or spread out the growing population of ESL students at Thomas Griffith?


We educate all students regardless of where they live, their family’s income level, or whether they speak English as a first language. Dublin City Schools has the sixth highest ELL population in Ohio and the third largest immigrant population in the state. We are proud of the District’s diversity and we take no steps to “decrease or spread out” the number of ELL students at a given building.


Why are lower income, non white and non-native English speakers being concentrated to certain schools? Where is the pre and post redistricting demographic and housing stock located? Why was housing stock not taken into consideration when drawing new lines? They were in your build out report for a reason. Why was that not a consideration?


We educate all students regardless of the type of housing they occupy. The type of housing students occupy is relevant to the build out report because it provides data in terms of how many students the District can expect to enroll per housing type. 

Why were apartments and more transient/variable student populations given greater priority of not moving over subdivisions?

 

Redistricting priorities were not based on the above question, but on the criteria provided by the committee and the community.



High Schools

When will high school redistricting occur? Does this also mean there is an impending high school redistricting?


Approximately 3-5 years.


Will the kids from the new middle school attend Jerome?


That is correct.


Do we need a fourth high school or just add on to the three we have?


The District’s build out study indicates we will not need a fourth high school.


Will it be a priority to avoid a high school redistricting for those areas are being negatively affected by the middle school redistricting? How do we ensure kids aren’t moved in the middle of high school in a few years? Are the new future additions not going to be enough to keep high school boundary lines where they are currently?


High school redistricting will be a separate process in the future, approximately 3-5 years from now.


Has there been any consideration to redistrict the high schools now? With Scioto not being at capacity, why not just rip the band aid and do high school changes now? What is the reason behind waiting 3-5 years? Why didn’t the district plan to “begin with the end in mind”, why will HS redistricting occur years later?


No, Jerome and Scioto would need to have additions constructed to accommodate this process.



Area west of Karrer to Middle School 5

Did any neighborhood get impacted more negatively than Post Preserve? 2 more miles to get to elementary and 8 more miles to middle school.  Health of kids should be a top priority? Why put kids on busses when the school is in back yard?


The reason that this area was selected to go to middle school five was to keep the Glacier Ridge Elementary 5th graders together, and the proximity to Hyland-Croy Rd. This area is currently under review. 


Why send Post Preserve kids to a further school for middle school when Karrer is less than a mile away?  Will high schools change too? Why was Post Preserve Middle School switched from Karrer which is 1/2 miles away to new middle 6 miles away when proximity was a main criteria? I live in Bishops Run and my son attends Karrer Middle and in 6th grade. Due to redistricting his new middle school is farther than Karrer.  Why is Bishops Run community allocated to the New Middle School when we are closer to Karrer? This does not make sense? Why move those attending Karrer to the new middle school? What is the justification with moving Post Preserve from Kareer to the new middle school? What’s the first rule? How did you make sure the first rule is in place for FIRST? If we are less than 0.5 miles walking distance and now need to take a bus six miles away, is the first rule applied here? Can you explain in detail with statistics? My house is 0.6 miles away from Karrer school in Westbury. What justification can you give why my kid needs to move to a school 45 minutes away, other than just for head count? How does redistricting benefit my kids it is only a 15 minute walk to karrer from neighborhood in Westbury?


We recognize the geographic proximity of these neighborhoods to Karrer. The reasons that this area was selected to go to middle school five was to keep the Glacier Ridge Elementary 5th graders together, and the proximity to Hyland-Croy Rd, and to balance out the middle school student population to the best of our ability. 


How is this proposed move meeting geographic proximity?


Some of the priorities that were established come into conflict with each other, and it is much tougher to meet the geographic proximity with a middle school (Five, much larger zones) than it is with the fourteen elementary schools


Do you know how long it takes for parents to get to school to pick kids up during busy hours?


We recognize that traffic does impact families when picking up their children in all areas of our district. 


Can you leave Post Preserve with Karrer Middle School?


We are certainly taking this scenario under consideration as this entire area is under review at this time. 


Westbury was split four years ago with the last redistricting and they are getting split again?


Westbury is not getting split again. The southside of Westbury that was redistricted to Glacier Ridge Elementary, 4 years ago, is proposed to move with all of Glacier Ridge Elementary school to the new Middle School.


This effectively excludes our children from athletics, after school and summer conditioning (cross country and football). How is this appropriate?


We recognize that distance to schools is an important consideration when drawing the boundary lines.



Intradistrict open enrollment


What is the intradistrict open enrollment policy? Is there any mechanic to opt-in or opt-out of the relocations?

 

The decision as to whether or not to allow intra-district transfers has not been discussed at this point. The charge of this committee was to establish the new boundary lines for our soon to be 14 elementary schools and five middle schools.

 


Middle school map question

Please explain your logic behind the middle school maps.


We used the criteria provided by the redistricting steering committee and validated during our elementary and middle school PTO and key communicator meetings.


What is the % of each of the proposed middle school changes?


Net change percentages are below. 

Davis-25%

Karrer-12%

Grizzell-25%

Sells-23%


What is the targeted enrollment at all five middle schools after the redistricting compared to the current enrollment?


We are looking to keep the enrollment under capacity in all of our buildings, as to allow for future growth. Please reference our powerpoint presentation to the right for specific numbers.  Our current enrollment is above capacity in most of our buildings.


My child will go to Karrer for one year then have to move. Can my child start at the new school?


These types of questions will be addressed once the K-8 redistricting process is complete.


Karrer is set to be at 80% capacity after the proposed maps. Where is the growth coming for that school?


Homes will continue to turn over as mature families move out, and younger families move in.


Will the same activities be offered in the new middle school as Grizzell?


Yes one of the committee’s goal is to have enough students at middle school five to offer the same academic and extracurricular programming that exist in our current middle schools. 


5th and 8th graders remaining questions

When will you make a decision on 5th and 8th graders staying their final year? If eighth graders are allowed to stay, will sixth and seventh grade siblings have to attend different middle schools? When will the decision be made if the kids can spend their 8th grade year at Sells or have to move to Grizzell?


We will make these decisions once the maps are finalized by the Superintendent. Attendance boundaries are expected to be finalized in December. 


Also, will busing be offered to both Sells and Grizzell at that time?


We anticipate that busing will only be offered to students for their assigned school.



Muirfield

How/why was the one isolated area across Muirfield Dr. chosen to stay with Deer Run verse the rest of the small neighborhood now being diverted to Eli Pinney? Why take such a small part of Muirfield away from Deer Run to Bailey? How was the decision to move a small group of kids in Muirfield from Deer run to Eli Pinney made? Why wouldn’t that group stay at Deer Run like the area to the north or the two areas to the south or move to Bailey with the larger contingency?


This area is under review at this time.


Why split up the small neighborhoods in Muirfield near Memorial Dr. to three schools? The portables at DRE keep getting brought up, but are currently not being utilized.


Portable classrooms are not a permanent solution to student overcrowding. They are expensive to install, lease, and maintain.


Muirfield Association has community pools which is an important aspect of the neighborhood and social aspect for kids. Did you consider?


No


Why does Muirfield have such weight? They are 2,400 houses and there is no way we should try to keep them together.


No neighborhood was given more ‘weight’ than another in our criteria.


What is the # of Muirfield students moving to Bailey?


Under this proposal, we would anticipate approximately 55 students to be moved.


Why would you move Pinney students to Deer Run, yet move current Deer Run students to Bailey?


No Pinney students were moved to Deer Run. No new students are being moved to Deer Run. 

How do you say “try to split 50/50” yet “move the least # of students”?


The ‘large cohorts’ criteria references the feeder patterns. For example, if an Elementary School is to be split between two Middle Schools, our community requested that we consider 50/50 splits. 


Procedural questions

Can redistricting occur in the future even if no new school is added?

Yes, redistricting is sometimes needed even in the absence of new buildings to balance the student enrollment.


Have you done this manually without using software?


The maps were developed using a sophisticated software called Guide K-12. You can learn more about the program by watching this video.


When do you want to have this process complete?


By winter break.


When will changes based off community feedback be made and then shared?


We will be proposing possible changes to our redistricting steering committee during our upcoming meetings and asking for their input. The Superintendent plans to approve attendance boundaries prior to winter break.


How is this process collaborative?


Our redistricting process involved input from our redistricting steering committee of approximately 55 parents/administrators. Additionally, Central Office administrators visited PTO/Key Communicators for each elementary and middle school to seek additional input. We have held three large scale community meetings, one at each of our high schools to collect even more input and will be using that to consider revisions.  We have also received many emails regarding the proposed maps.


Why weren’t the steering committee members more actively involved in the creation of the maps? How much input did the steering committee have on on the maps?


The steering committee created the initial set of criteria and will be used to review proposed revisions to the maps for the Superintendent to consider. 


Who were the “plus ones” on the steering committee and how were those individuals determined?


Our parent members to the Redistricting Steering Committee were each building’s PTO Co-Presidents. In the event that a school has just 1 PTO president, the Principal worked with the PTO to select an additional member.


How much of the steering committee was actually considered in the redistricting feedback? What examples can you provide?


The Steering Committee will be reflecting on/revising proposed changes to the draft maps.


How long do you anticipate this map lasting?


Our hope is that the new attendance maps will last approximately 5 years.  


Property values

I noticed some home prices for Grizzell were significantly higher than Karrer. Any concerns with economic segregation? Is the effect on property values a strong consideration? One question is has the affect of the home values being decreased by being redistricted to a lower rated school been taken into consideration? Also, how is it determined which areas are “high growth”? How would the schools know about any of my kids that aren’t in the school system or any of our neighbors kids?


Economic demographics were not criteria identified by the steering committee to consider. Additionally, property values were also not identified as a criteria, nor are they something the District controls. 



Report card data

Was any consideration regarding school performance taken into account when drawing new lines? Do you think student demographics impact that? If so, why was it not considered? According to the Ohio School Report Cards data, there are schools that currently fall short compared to others in the district. Those schools are now going to be concentrated with more students from underperforming elementary schools. Why? What resources will the district provide to keep those schools achieving at a level comparable to the rest of the district?


State report card data was not a criteria identified to be used when drawing the proposed maps. The District provides classroom level resources wherever they are needed to help our students succeed and learn.



Riviera

Why is the Riviera community split between two schools, Grizzell and the New Middle School?


The split was proposed in order to keep Glacier Ridge and Deer Run from splitting into the new middle school and Grizzell. This area is under review at this time.


Will Glacier students from Riviera currently in fourth grade be moved to the new elementary school in 2020?


See the “splits” section of this Q & A for an answer. 


If you’re trying to keep neighborhoods together, why take only one street from West Riviera over to MS5?


See question one of this section above. This area is currently under review.


Riviera has students going to Deer Run and Glacier? If so, why are we using the new growth excuse for Deer Run?


The eastern portion of Riviera is not yet built out and that is the area attending Deer Run. 



Riverside/161 area

What were the reasons for moving the area south of 161 to Martin Road to Riverside Elementary instead of to Hopewell like the rest of Indian Run that is being moved? And Why this area and not other areas that are closer to Riverside Elementary? All of the current Wright students are either staying at Wright or moving to Thomas, except for our street, Brightinton, and half of Maryhurst.  This goes against your tenant of keeping school cohorts together. Why are only these two tiny streets being moved to Riverside Elementary?


This area was moved because this area had been at Riverside previously and this neighborhood is closer to Riverside than it is Hopewell.

This area is under review at this time. 



Shawnee Hills Split

Was the proximity of Tartan West (Corazon) to Grizzell considered in the map proposal? Have you heard responses from this community? If you are making changes from Memorial Drive, why not past Memorial Drive down Muirfield Drive? Why will you split off Buckeye Dr., Mohican and Logan from the rest of Shawnee Hills? One bus east, one bus west.


This area is under review at this time. 



“Splits” from middle school to high school

A small % of 5th grade students will go from Wyandot to Karrer to Grizzell to Coffman in a few years. How do we fix this oversight?


This is a very small cohort of students and is under review at this time.


What three elementary schools are being split?


Glacier Ridge, Indian Run, and Wright


What drafts have been looked at to help even out the 80/20 Karrer split?


We are looking at multiple options to try and improve this split


Our kids (Pinney) will see a few hundred kids move to Depp, then half will go to MS5. Then the way the map is laid out our kids will see half of GMS go to Jerome and then the other half to Coffman. Three splits for the same kids. Any consideration?


Half of Pinney students will go to middle school 5 then Jerome, while the other half will go to Grizzell then Jerome. 


How many students from Grizzell would go to Coffman?


It is roughly 50% of the current 8th grade.


Why is splitting elementaries a bad thing? It teaches children resilience, gives them a safe environment to make new friends, and allows for students to also leave groups as well. I wish more split.


The redistricting committee asked us to try and keep the elementary students together as much as possible as they moved on to middle school.


What consideration will be given to 5th graders who have to transition to middle school twice? With a handful of students?


It has been mentioned to allow students who will be redistricted to Karrer, Sells, or Grizzell to have the opportunity to intra-district transfer a year early to avoid having to go to two different middle schools. We are looking at this possibility.


Regarding splitting Karrer to Coffman and Jerome, what is the current % of those going to Coffman vs. Jerome?


Currently about 60% to Coffman and 40% to Jerome.


What is the % of each of the proposed middle school splits?


Davis - 100% to Scioto

Sells - 70% to Coffman, and 30% to Scioto

Karrer - 80% to Coffman and 20% to Jerome 

Grizzell - 50% to Coffman and 50% to Jerome

MS #5 - 100% to Jerome


Peer groups seem to be getting split up? Why was this concern ignored by the steering committee?


Peer groups were not considered when the committee set priorities.  The committee narrowed the concerns to three items 1) Impact on families, 2) Keeping neighborhoods together, 3) Move the least amount of students while using space as efficiently as possible 


Middle Schools do not currently “feed” the high schools, but moving forward is that part of the plan? If it is not how can you explain the rationale for kids’ peer groups continuously changing?


Your address will determine where your child attends High School.  Peer groups will change for students as they progress through school regardless of whether they are redistricted or not.


I know the high school isn’t for 3-5 years, but with Bailey moving to Grizzell, are you still targeting any splits into high school to be 50/50?


At this time there is no set target for the percentage of splits from the middle schools to the high schools.  High school attendance is dependent upon your address.



Staffing

Can you share how you are reviewing teacher and building staff support to accommodate the changes to be in place before the start of school?


Once the new attendance maps are finalized, building student enrollment will be carefully reviewed to ensure each building has the needed teaching and support staff to meet student needs.


Will buildings gaining extra students also gain extra staff?


Yes, both teaching and support staff will be transferred between buildings to ensure all buildings have the staff needed to meet student needs.


How many additional teachers be needed?  


Approximately 60 additional teachers will be needed to support our two new elementary buildings and to support enrollment growth across the district. 


Did you consider classroom sizes? If you are adding students to schools, will you add more teachers?


The current elementary classroom enrollment “caps” are 26-1 for K/1st, 28-1 for 2nd/3rd, 30-1 for 4th/5th.  The redistricting process will not increase or decrease overall class sizes.  Just as the students are being spread among all 14 elementary buildings, existing staff will also be spread among all of our buildings.  Class sizes in a specific building and grade level vary from year to year. This is due to enrollment growth as well as families who leave the district.  Each grade level at each building is carefully reviewed each year to ensure appropriate staffing levels. 

 

Yes, both teaching and support staff will be transferred between buildings to ensure all buildings have the staff needed to meet student needs



Will there be new teachers at the new middle school?


Yes.  When the new middle school opens for the 2021-2022 school year, existing teaching and support staff will be transferred between buildings to ensure all buildings have the staff needed to meet student needs.  In addition, approximately 50 new staff members will be needed to support our new middle school and to support enrollment growth across the district.



Thomas

Even though the proposed map drops our capacity to 93% are the kids going to have to still put up with less than desired spaces in their school?


Thomas will have almost 200 fewer students next year under the proposed maps, allowing learning to take place in spaces designed for educational purposes.


Thomas will most likely be back to 100% capacity in two years. What is the long term goal to keep these numbers down?


Class size caps will remain in place going forward which will prevent class sizes from exceeding Board of Education approved numbers. 


What determines the maximum capacity of Thomas? Why are our kids having classes in closets with no windows?


The capacity of all our elementary schools was determined by taking the number of regular educational classrooms and multiplying by 25 (for the average class size). One of the reasons behind our levy and redistricting process was to eliminate any classes in spaces not designed for learning and teaching. 


Why did Thomas not have proper representation at these meetings? We did not have our plus one.


Two representatives from Thomas Elementary School were invited to the steering committee meetings. 



Transitions

What are the transitions plans? You keep saying kids are more resilient, but they are not free from being impacted by constant moving of schools, what is the district doing to help these transitions? 


Principals have already started working together to create transition plans for students and families. We have a caring staff who will work hard to ensure new students feel welcome in their new schools, and to ensure students on IEPs and others with specific needs, will be well taken care of in new environments.


Will students who are moving to the new school be placed in the same homeroom classroom for first year?


Principals assign students to specific classrooms prior to the beginning of school.


Will funds from existing PTOs be transferred to the new schools so that the new schools have PTO funds to work with?  Are you planning open houses to tour the new schools once complete?


Principals have already started working together to create transition plans for students and families.  Principals will include their PTOs and other community members to ensure that the transitions for students leaving buildings and joining buildings will be positive and exciting. There will be welcoming events for students who are attending new elementary schools next year, yes.


What consideration has been given to the number of times will have to change schools at key transitional years? Specifically 4-6 graders.


Careful consideration has been given to the number of times any student will need to move schools, and as a result, only 29% of over 16,000 students are being moved in this district wide redistricting process.  In the normal course of events, every student will transition 3 times in the course of their education in Dublin City Schools.



Versions of Maps

Are there are alternative versions of maps? What alternate maps were considered? Did the steering committee review multiple maps?


Many scenarios were explored during the ‘drawing phase’ of the process- yet none were whole prior to the proposal shared with the community and the Superintendent. Alternate versions may emerge as a result of taking feedback.


How many re-drafts will there be before this process is final?


As many as the Superintendent needs to make his final decision.



Miscellaneous

At Deer Run, the portables are to leave but all they are being used for is storage and a gifted pull out class. Can we use some other space for the gifted pull out? Does each gifted group at other schools have their own class?


Once the portables are removed from Deer Run, teaching and learning will return to spaces designed for those purposes.


What part of the 29% are students who live in Jerome Village?


About 20% of the students being moved in this K-8 redistricting proposal live in Jerome Village. 


Explain why I should live in Dublin still and pay high taxes when my new district will be shared with Union County/Plain City residents who pay less taxes.


All Dublin City Schools residents pay Dublin City Schools property taxes regardless of where you live in the District.


Will this allow more space for full day kindergarten?


All day kindergarten was studied during the Master Planning process and it was determined we need another entire elementary school’s worth of classroom space, as well as a significant number of additional staff, to offer all day kindergarten. There are no plans to shift to all day K at this time.


Will all of the portables be removed from buildings? Is that the goal?


Yes, the goal is to remove all portables from the district. The portables will be removed from Deer Run and Eli Pinney next summer.


Why was Deer Run PTO’s president not involved on the redistricting committee?


All PTO Presidents were invited to be on the steering committee.


Did you already count the number of students from each community?


Yes.


What elementary and middle school attendance areas do each of the board members currently live and how will that change after redistricting? Are the board member’s neighborhoods attending the schools closest to their homes with the current redistricting maps? Why are all the board members being redistricted out of Sells?


The Board of Education does not make the decision regarding attendance boundaries, and where they live in the District was not considered during the process of developing the proposed maps. 


Is the bus to walker ratio similar? Looks like we are adding more buses to the new map?


We haven’t studied this issue at this point. We will be reviewing it moving forward.


Do all the middle schools have the same number of aides? Special ed teachers? Gifted intervention specialists?


The number of specialists assigned to each of our buildings is based on the needs of the students in that building.


Is there anything that can be done to have the schools more centrally located in the district? 


Many more students would need to be moved to attempt to place our schools at the center of their attendance area. Additionally, several of our buildings are in the extreme corners of our district - making it difficult to have a centralized building.


What additional plans are put into place to prevent overcrowding in the schools?


The District is not a zoning authority and does not approve or deny housing developments which lead to enrollment growth. 


The website says this will last about five years. Why are you not planning for this to be more permanent?


We do not want to over-promise by giving a number of years we may or may not be able to meet. The growth of our district depends on many variables, many of which are out of our control (such as the economy).


What is the best way to communicate specific concerns about the redistricting maps?


All questions, thoughts and concerns can be emailed to info@dublinschools.net.


 
Questions about the proposed maps prior to October
We appreciate the emails and feedback on the proposed K-8 redistricting maps. We understand this process and the concept of changing an elementary and/or middle school can cause a variety of emotions. Concerns about transitions are duly noted and we are going to have tremendous transition plans in place when this redistricting process is completed. We have expert teachers at all of our schools, similar services are in place across the District, and we will be working closely with our PTOs to provide whatever supports are needed to ensure transitions to new schools are as seamless as possible for students.

Below is some additional information regarding the proposed maps based on the feedback we have received to this point.

Q. What percentage of K-8 students are being moved under the proposed maps?
Only 29 percent of K-8 students would be moved in the current proposal. Considering two elementary schools are opening in the same year (2020), and a middle school is opening the following year, this is a relatively small percentage of student movement.

Q. What is the overall rationale for the proposed maps?
Dublin City Schools will open two new elementary schools in the fall of 2020 and middle school five in the fall of 2021. The capacity of the new elementary schools is 720 students each, and the capacity of middle school five is 950. According to our most recent enrollment growth report from FutureThink, over the next decade more than 3,000 additional students will be enrolling. Following the criteria provided by the community, we want to keep people as close to their schools as possible, leave room for future enrollment and minimize impacts on families. It is impossible that all three criteria can be accommodated in every circumstance. As we’ve mentioned several times at public meetings, at times these criteria are in conflict with one another in certain situations. 

Q. Why were these maps drawn in a way that leaves our schools under capacity?
While enrollment growth is district-wide, there are higher growth areas in our district than others and one of the criteria given to us by the community was to leave space in our schools for future growth in order to make this redistricting last as long as possible. One of the keys to addressing overcrowding caused by enrollment growth is distributing student population in order to leave room for future growth. Remember, at the elementary level we will have schools with capacity as high as 720 students and as low as 400 students.

Q. Are the social and emotional well-being of students being considered regarding transitions to new schools?
Yes. Our principals, teachers and support staff are skilled at providing transition structure and transition plans will be put into place once the K-8 redistricting process is completed. We will be working closely with our PTOs to provide whatever supports are needed to ensure transitions to new schools are as seamless as possible for students.

Q. Why do some elementary schools “split” populations as they transition to middle school and why do some middle school populations “split” as they transition to high school?
We will soon have 14 elementary schools feeding five middle schools that feed three high schools. With an enrollment exceeding 16,500 students, some splits as levels change are unavoidable. We have three elementary schools that currently split student populations to middle school and we will have three that split in the proposed maps. We currently have two splits to high school at the middle school level. Under this proposal, we will have three splits at the middle school level.

Q. Will these proposed maps change?
We are in the process of taking community feedback and do not know the answer to this question at this point in time. We have received feedback regarding specific neighborhoods, streets, and addresses and we understand why that is the case. The redistricting committee leadership MUST look at the District in its entirety when making recommendations. All feedback and input will be reviewed and considered. 

Questions related to Bristol Commons to Bailey
Q. What was the rationale for moving Bristol Commons from Wyandot to Bailey?
Bristol Commons was moved to Bailey because it is located north of Brand Road, adjacent to the Bailey neighborhood. The number of students in Bristol Commons was the number of students needed to balance the population of both Wyandot and Bailey.
If Bristol Commons were moved back to Wyandot, Wyandot would be close to 100% capacity, which could potentially mean new Wyandot students would be force transferred to another school if Wyandot exceeds capacity.
Bailey would go down 81% capacity and Bailey is a low enrollment growth attendance area. We understand the proximity issue regarding the pedestrian tunnel that has been mentioned many times.

Questions related to a portion of Deer Run to Bailey
Q. Why was a portion of the Deer Run attendance area in Muirfield selected to attend Bailey?
The portables are being removed from Deer Run to allow for that programming to be delivered in appropriate spaces. Deer Run is located in a high growth area of the District and its proposed 88% capacity after redistricting allows room for future growth. There are subdivisions still under construction in the Deer Run attendance area.

Questions related to Post Preserve area moving to Middle School 5
Q. Why was this area that is geographically closer to Karrer Middle School selected to move to Middle School 5?
Again, not all criteria will be met in every situation. This move was proposed due to the population density of this area and the need to open the new middle school at a capacity high enough to provide for efficient operations, while still leaving room for enrollment growth as middle school five is located in a high growth area. Middle Schools are inherently more regional than neighborhood based elementary schools as we only have five middle schools compared to 14 elementary schools.

General Redistricting Questions
Q. What is redistricting?
Redistricting is a term that means changing school attendance boundaries. 
 
Q. Who makes the redistricting decisions?
By Ohio law, the Superintendent of schools assigns students to their buildings. We will be taking community input during the process.
 
Q. What is the redistricting process and when does it start?
The redistricting process will start this fall and will be transparent and shared with our community as we move forward. There are NO attendance boundary changes for the 2019-20 school year. Redistricting for the fall of 2020 for elementary and the fall of 2021 for middle school, will be completed by winter break, providing families plenty of time to adjust to new attendance boundaries. A series of public meetings will take place beginning in September where community members will have the opportunity to provide feedback. Additional public meetings are scheduled for October.
 
Q. What type of criteria are used when redistricting?
A. During September,members of the Central Office team have been meeting with all K-8 PTO and Key Communicator organizations to get their feedback on initial criteria developed by the steering committee. Three main criteria have emerged and they are listed below.
 
  1. Neighborhood schools/transportation 
    It is very clear geographic proximity to your school of attendance is a high priority. How much time students spend on their bus and the desire to keep neighborhoods, and cohorts of students together whenever possible, is important to our families. 
  2. Efficient use of space
    The group have also been clear this K-8 redistricting needs to provide relief to overcrowded buildings, as well as assigning students to our new schools. The group felt the District needs to leave space for growth wherever possible during this process. Our schools are overcrowded and we need to provide enrollment growth relief to our existing schools, while also opening Abraham Depp and Hopewell Elementary schools in a manner that allows for future growth. A recent build out study conducted by the District indicates we will continue growing until about 2036.
  3. Consider families
    This concept revolves around making transitions as smooth as possible. The committee would like the District to look at allowing 5th and 8th graders to remain at their current schools next school year as well as their siblings. Robust transition plans for students moving to new schools are also important to the community. Additionally, keeping in mind how school populations "split" when transitioning to the next level has been repeatedly identified.
     
Q. Why is redistricting necessary?
Two elementary schools open in 2020 and a fifth middle school opens in 2021. Thanks to the support of Issue 5 by our community, these schools will help us address overcrowded conditions at our K-8 schools. This redistricting is not just about populating our upcoming new schools. It will allow us to reset all of our K-8 buildings to more optimal enrollment numbers. The District has added more than 3,000 students since Glacier Ridge opened in 2006, the District’s last new school.

Q. What type of redistricting will take place in 2019?
This redistricting is a K-8 redistricting in order to prepare for the opening of Hopewell and Abraham Depp Elementary in 2020 and middle school five in 2021. ALL elementary and middle schools will be touched by this redistricting.

Q. Are the high schools involved in this redistricting?
No this is a K-8 redistricting. High school redistricting will be necessary three to five years from now.
 
Q. If my assigned middle school changes during this redistricting process, does it change my high school?
No, this is a K-8 redistricting. Your street address determines what schools you attend, not "feeder patterns."

Q. When will new attendance maps go into effect?
For elementary, when Hopewell and Abraham Depp open in the fall of 2020. For middle school, the fall of 2021 when middle school five opens.
 
Q. How long will this redistricting last?
The answer is dependent upon the where future enrollment growth occurs and how quickly that growth occurs. Our goal is for this K-8 redistricting to last five years. Because the District is expected to grow until 2036, it is difficult to provide specific time frames regarding how long a redistricting will last. You can view the District's build-out study at this link.

Q. Will fifth and 8th graders be allowed finish their final year at their current schools? What about their siblings?
The answer to this question will be determined during the redistricting process this fall. Historically, the District has permitted this to be the case when redistricting has been necessary. As of early October, we are still working through this question.
 
Q. How are the new schools staffed?
A. The District's Human Resources has a staffing plan in place for the new schools. Additional staff will need to be hired, but the new schools will be staffed with a combination of veteran and new staff.
 
Q. How are attendance maps drawn?
A. The District uses sophisticated software called Guide K12 in this process. This software gives us the ability to know how many students are in a given neighborhood down to a specifid street. The software is loaded with our student demographics, grade levels, and more.

Q. Where can I direct redistricting comments and questions?
Questions and comments can be directed to info@dublinschools.net.
 
Enrollment growth related questions
Q. What can Dublin City Schools do to control residential growth?
When it comes to housing developments and overall community growth, Dublin City Schools has no zoning authority or the ability to assess developers impact fees for bringing more students and the associated costs to our District. We work closely with developers and the City of Dublin when we are made aware of new housing projects, but ultimately, Dublin City Schools cannot control student enrollment growth. Our mission is to educate all the students who live within our boundaries.
 
Q. I understand the Jerome Village developers have donated the land for the new schools in Jerome Village. Have other developers contributed to the education costs?
The District was able to purchase 39 acres in Jerome Village for future schools for $1. Ohio law does not allow for impact fees. In other states, developers can be charged impact fees when the size of a development mandates a new school or schools. Impact fees do not exist in Ohio.

Q. How many students does each type of home produce in our District?
Single family homes produce approximately 0.5 students per home while multi-family homes (apartments, condos) produce approximately 0.25 students per unit. These are averages and vary by subdivision and housing type.
 
Q. Where is most of the enrollment growth taking place in our District?
Growth is District-wide. While the majority of new construction is the northwest quadrant of the District, other neighborhoods are "graying then flipping." As empty nesters move out of existing homes, families with younger children often move in, causing enrollment growth in well-established neighborhoods.
 
Q. When will District growth taper off?
The District is projected to keep growing until about 2036. You can view our most recent build-out study at this link.
 
New schools under construction questions
Q. Where are the new elementary schools located?
 Abraham Depp Elementary is located in Jerome Village and Hopewell Elementary is located off of Bright Road and Emerald Parkway.
 
Q. Have the elementary principals been selected?
 
Q. Where is Middle School Five going to be located?
Next to where Abraham Depp Elementary is currently being constructed in the Jerome Village subdivision in the northwest corner of our District. Ravenhill Parkway is the road on the South border of the property.
 
Q. When will construction begin on Middle School Five?
We expect to break ground on middle school five in the spring of 2020. 
 

Guide K12 Tutorial: How the maps were drawn

Public Meeting Schedule

Oct. 7, 6:30 p.m. - Coffman PAC (Theater)
Oct. 8, 6:30 p.m. - Jerome CPA (Theater)
Oct. 10, 6:30 p.m. - Scioto PAC (Theater)

Questions?

With any questions, send an email to info@dublinschools.net.

K-8 Redistricting Timeline

An Update with Dr. Hoadley

A Look Through Hopewell Elementary

A look through Abraham Depp

View text-based website